DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.14 21:45:00 -
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Kraizer793 wrote:As awesome as the idea is, I really don't think they'll be used.
The people who will be attracted to this type of mission are, in my experience, the type who won't want to bother grinding out traditional L4's in all their mind-numbing tedium.
The people who like L4's or run them for ISK's sake will likely just skip them. due to the risk and skill involved, just skipping it and going back to blitzing Dread Pirate Scarlet for the seventh time that day is much easier.
They need to be their own brand of mission, able to be done without having to deal with the existing missions which are an exercise in pressing F1 more than they are anything else. I think a lot of people will try them out initially, but after the new feature smell wears off, they'll fall to the wayside.
Perhaps reserve the Burners as "boss fights" for a new strain of mission, and traditional missions of this strain and pockets leading up to the Burner itself would contain less powerful variants of the Burners. 2-4 per pocket, still powerful, and still capable of causing a player to evaluate each mission and situation from a tactical perspective, and not from a "What damage type?" perspective.
+1. Step in the right direction.
Nalha Saldana wrote:Gain them randomly from doing L4s? No this is a terrible idea, a lot of L4 runners dont want them and most who want burner missions dont want L4s at all.
Best solution is definitely to drop keys or similar in L4s that can be sold on market and turned in to a agent to gain a burner mission. This gives those who does L4s the option between isk or burner while those who want to farm them the ability to do it unlimited while still having it regulated by market cost.
Dave Stark wrote:and you've just made them, useless, and ****** content.
if i'm doing level 4 missions, it ain't in a goddamn frigate. it's in a ship that can't do them, it'll get instantly declined and disregarded.
either make them an alternative, or don't bother. just adding in missions i can't complete in my normal mission boat, to my normal mission agent is just another mission that i instantly disregard just like anything in low sec, more than 3 jumps away, or incurs faction standing losses.
on the bright side, at least you know it's a dumb idea and aren't imposing standing losses for your terrible implementation of what could have been an amazing addition to eve.
Dalilus wrote:Yup, as expected, pvp style mission farms for wholers, lowsequers and of course those beloved nullbears. Not something your normal carebear would be interested in running. This idea ranks right up there with the whole lot of distribution missions some dumb@$$ decide to unleash on us a few years back to great fanfare and look how well that idea turned out. Just out of curiosity, what are the rewards? One million isk and another million isk bonus to risk a 4 billion isk frigate? Are you guys really that interested in creating isk sinks for plex? What will the bad guys be dropping, officer/deadspace loot or tech 1 garbage? Don't forget that in their wisdom the geniuses that come up with this stuff decided to take away pirate faction loot from missions because the nullbear BWAAAAmbulance made the rounds whining to anyone that would listen that carebears made too much isk. If this is the new direction pve is taking then, %$#@) that. I agree 100% with all of these.
As a long time explorer and mission runner (+6 years) in this game, I have to say this type of so called PvE content is nothing more than mock PvP, something which doesn't interest me at all. CCP constantly trying to force PvE players into doing PvP is killing this game. If players want to do PvP action, there's nothing stopping them so why the constant attempts to force those who only want to do PvE content into doing PvP?
What I've seen happening over the past few years is a small but very vocal group of PvP players constantly dictating / meta-gaming CCP via CSM / Null Sec Alliances on how this game should be played. Since CCP is bound and determined to listen to them by slowly removing the PvE aspect of this game, I say just fracking do it already and stop wasting our time with this slowboat action of turning Eve into Vaporware.
Seriously, CCP Devs need to pull their heads out of their Facebooks and stop twittering with themselves.
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